None of us do, Dave, none of us do. From my POV, I don't think I'd be "satisfied" too long with W meeting my "minimum desires"... I want to explore our POTENTIAL! Potential lies at the opposite end of the spectrum. So for me, meeting the minimums wouldn't get us there. I also don't really know what my minimums are... we've been operating so far below that for so long, almost any improvement would be huge. I think the key is to make gains in the growth cycle, then fall back into the comfort cycle for a time, then push into the growth cycle again. You can't get there all at once, but it's an ongoing process, and the next crucible will never be all that far away, but I think they get less intense and easier to enter as time goes on. At least that's what the book says... So for me, I think the first plan would be to get to a point where we're ML fairly regularly, get comfortable with that for a time, then set a boundary around initiation. Once that is established, then set a boundary around variety and experimentation. Eventually we'd get around to getting a Liberator set...