Hi, Wishing, Stopping in again to see if anything new has progressed. I think H's butt had grown permanently attached to the fence! A thought on the tone. What would H do if you responded - immediately - when he was talking nasty, with a polite. Please don't use that tone of voice with me. I don't deserve it. Now, what were you saying?" It would let him know immediately that it was an issue. It seems you let it fester until you are alone, and by then he's forgotten what you are talking about. I know my H is clueless about what is bothing me unless I tell him.