I'd like to get some opinions on something that happened yesterday. Overall, I've been ok the last couple of weeks. Thanksgiving was meh, I really did miss W being around and having to switch off S1, D11, etc. Just not the family situation I dreamed of. But I'm working through it and know I will be okay in the future. I've known this holiday season will slightly suck like it did during my first divorce.
So back to yesterday. On Sunday, we had S1's bday party. I guess he's S2 now. A few family and friends, all mine, and W. I was slightly surprised she was able to be around everyone due to her awkwardness, and while it was a little weird, for the most part everything was fine. I took lots of pictures, and W asked me to send them to her. No problem. I meant to Airdrop them to her as it's much easier/faster than texting dozens of pics and videos. In case you don't know, Airdrop is over bluetooth, so you have to be near the other phone. I forgot to send before she left, but we had a plan for her to come over yesterday so we can divy up the Christmas ornaments. I said I'd Airdrop them when she came back.
So we're splitting the ornaments, everything is fine. I'm in a good mood, S2 is playing and having a good time so I'm happy watching him. I remember the pics. "Oh let me Airdrop those pictures to you." She says she doesn't think it will work because her phone is messed up. She just got a new phone and new phone plan so she can get off of her dad's plan. "One less thing to hold over her head" she said. Their R is still ice cold, but whatever. She opens her phone and her camera roll so we can try the Airdrop.
She's holding the phone in front of me, so I see the roll of pictures. There's a picture of a bare chest. It was just 1 of the 20 small pictures on the screen, so I couldn't immediately recognize who it was. And I'm not overly suspicious or anything, again I'm in a happy mood. I jokingly ask "oh who's nipple?" She says it's hers, she took the picture to show her friend in Denmark her tattoo (the girl she went to visit for 5 weeks total in the spring/summer this year). I asked what new tattoo she got, she says it's an older picture, it's when she got the coverup tattoo on the side of her ribs. She got that tattoo either late spring or early summer. Says the pictures are showing up weird in her camera roll due to the phone issues. I immediately buy this because when I lost my phone in October and I was signed in to a loaner phone, it was showing pictures in my camera roll from like 5 years ago. Basically iCloud pictures. So I think nothing of it and we finish the ornament sorting.
A few hours later, I'm at a bar watching a football game. My friends that were maybe going to come bailed and the game was boring, so I'm mostly just sitting and thinking to myself. And then it suddenly dawns on me how a few things don't make sense with this picture. For one, it was near the bottom of the camera roll. And I know she's taken pictures of S2 recently (this past weekend). Why are iCloud pictures showing up at the bottom of the camera roll when you've been taking pictures? I suspect it's a much more recent picture. 2nd, and more importantly, the angle of the picture made no sense for what she was allegedly trying to share with her friend. That tattoo is on the side of her ribs, between the armpit and hip. The picture I saw, from what I recall from the brief view of it, was more of a straight on photo of the chest and abdomen. It did have the shirt pulled up, so it wasn't like a full nude. And it may have only been one nipple, like if you pulled up your shirt to show someone something on one side of your body. Face was not in it. But I really don't see what you would have sent that picture to show the tattoo. If it was in the picture, it was barely, and you couldn't have seen the entire back half of it (it's a house plant).
And the other thing that I'm foggy on but suspicious about is it almost seemed too far away to be a selfie, like someone else took it. I could be wrong about that.
I could be wrong with all of these suspicions. Devils advocate, maybe it really is 5-6 months old and showed up weird due to her phone issues. Her phone is truly messed up right now (we tried Airdrop and she didn't show up available even though her settings looked right), and she can only call/text over wifi and Facetime audio/video. Maybe I'm misremembering the perspective and the tattoo is in full view and it's more of a side shot than I initially thought. Again, I saw it for about 2 seconds and it was a small picture, 1 of 20 on the screen.
I have little doubt there is/was someone else. OM, OW whatever. Maybe it's the friend in Denmark. I have not obsessed about this lately, though. But seeing that picture and then realizing I think she was lying about it had me going crazy last night. I had a phone call with my sister and then my best friend to get their opinions. My sister 100% thought it was not a tattoo sharing picture. My friend was more like 90%. I told both of them I want to ask W about it next time I see her in person. My sister was supportive, my friend was more like "what good would that do, and how would it make you feel?" I said I would like to know to help me gain closure. In the end he was supportive.
What are the thoughts here? Based on my description, which I tried to be as fair and accurate with as possible, how does it sound to you? And what are the thoughts on bringing up the subject to W? I would only do it in person as she'd easily be able to delete or doctor the photo if I called/texted. Plus I'd like to read her body language if I brought it up. My sister and friend both asked if her face turned red, and I honestly didn't remember because I had zero suspicions at that time.
I have had *zero* R talk with W since the first week of August. I have been DBing to the best of my abilities. Zero R talk, trying to act happy and carefree when I interact, trying to keep myself looking and smelling good as much as possible, hitting the gym multiple times a week. I have been slacking on my mindfulness activities, so I need to go for a nature walk soon. But if I brought this up, it would be the first interaction of any kind like this since August.
Thanks for any input, I hope everyone is doing well.
Me 38, WAW 30 D11 (former marriage) S2 T 8 years M 3 years BD 8/20/23 S 8/20/23