Thanks, Card. I get it. To me, so much of the focus in MWD's DB and DR books (and her two day intensives) is about saving your marriage, why you should, and working at staying happy for the kids that I interpret saving the marriage to be the main goal. The way the process also prepares you to let go of the rope, re-focus on yourself, and "bust" your D in an additional way seems like secondary, positive outcomes. So, at least a seeming paradox in terms of practical outcomes. You're right that the real end goal isn't paradoxical at all; we get our sense of self back, confidence, and a new set of skills to better navigate relationships and life. With appreciation, Mr. P