I am a bit like you T with regard ti feeling like a DB failure and feeling bad for posting.Similar stories and timeframes. My H MLC alcohol etc. I think we have to remember the rest of our stories haven’t been written. Who knows what our future holds down the track with our spouses. Sometimes we have to let them really fall in order for them to fix themselves( if they fix themselves)
I don’t think we need to feel bad. We have proven what DB is also about which is about helping ourselves and us getting stronger as the LBS. It may not always save our current marriage but as many say, that was dead long before BD. I still believe in hope and fresh starts even with our spouses and I still believe we can be the lighthouse. Of course we still want them, of course we wished this never happened of course we still love them, heck I still love my H even through the bad times like now. But they fired us. I think this is the detachment now. I too feel like I “ couldn’t care less”. I feel the same way. All I can say is Alcohol destroys so many things and they just live in that fog
Keep enjoying Terapin time


M:41 H:48
T:20. M:16.5
BD: 15/12/22 -moved out 17/3/2023