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[Gerda]

I just dropped S18 at college and I think I cried for the whole 8 hour drive from there to visiting my father (my father sadly nothing like yours, more like the original to my H!) and then when I got there, I walked at the water's edge in the dark and cried, like choking fall on the grass crying in the dark while everyone was sleeping, and in the next day kayaking at dusk, cried, prayed for his safety and peace, etc., you get the idea. My love for S18 is so deep I can hardly bear it, complicated by the hard life he had these last few years, etc. etc but that I will write more about one day when I finally update my thread.

The reason I came on here (and then got distracted for the last 45 minutes by the return of SJohn!) was to tell you to listen to this amazing podcast about trees, if you search for "Trees Talk To Each Other. 'Mother Tree' Ecologist Hears Lessons For People, Too." Since we love to discuss trees. I also have to talk to you about permaculture, after your musings on grass cutting I realize that I need to start preaching about that to you even though I have always loved your grass cutting reflections. But as I am now obsessed with permaculture I want to spread the ways. There is a great book you can listen to on tape that is called Restoration Agriculture, you will love the writer!