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[Ready2Change]

When I was single, a hot girl asked me to buy her a drink. I told her absolutely...after you buy me one...she said I like your style....

Other guys will buy women drinks all night...this supplicating behavior turns them into friend zone guys....

W told me she got herself a bed frame and wants the spare bed so I will deliver and get a replacement bed. I am staying on track

So what did W do for you in exchange?

A friend of mine would go on a first date with a woman. He would go to her door, unlock it, hold it open, let her get in, then close it. He would then go to the driver side. If the girl had not reached over and unlock the door, it was the last date with her.

I have women friends that tell me how pathetic a guy is when they are always doing what they ask. They are not a challenge and loose any type of attraction they have for them.



There is a time and place to do nice things for women without expecting something in return. There are other times when both parties need to be giving to the other. During the DB process, it is extremely important to use logic and determine new ways of behaving that increases your SMV.

I think the only way I would have delivered the bed if it was accompanied with everything else that was "hers" from the house.

Rock, Does your W get angry? How do you respond? Go read Gekko's thread. He is the best example of a poster that arrived here without Mr Nice Guy Issues.