Hey BL42, Her previous marriage was bad, real bad. I know I triggered her with my actions. I regret it.. Low sex was not initially due to me, I wanted it. But, the rules, times, kids must be asleep, late at night only was kind of a turn off.. Made me feel a little rejection. I appreciate your straight talk. I never thought I cheated on her. I never actually engage in anyone other than trying to communicate with women. Not good, but, compared to what her ex did, I guess she just was rightfully upset.. To say the least. I think my actions created her actions later.. So many years after the fact, and no forgiveness. If we had better counseling, better family and friends, communication, I probably wouldnt need to be here. This site, and the people here have awakened me.. Damn.. One day, she needs to be told that I apologize for everything, and when that day happens, I hope she will forgive me. Thats the closure I would like. But for now, I cant be her friend, husband, or anything. I have to focus on me, my girls and grand kids. On a side note, why dont family and friends reach out to both parties in a relationship and try to help..