DW17,
Originally Posted by DW17
This weekend went pretty well. I went with a friend to grab drinks and watch some playoff baseball.
Good!

Originally Posted by DW17
Later that night W did her standard night out/see you tomorrow routine so I did movie night with D4.
She doesn't own rights to that night - it's ok for you to get out and do something. What if next week you told her you were going to be out...and then left.

Originally Posted by DW17
The next morning we were out of the house before W got home.
I think it's great you get out of there with D4 before she arrives home.

Originally Posted by DW17
Today I met with 2 lawyers. I'm not sure how helpful it was, but it solidified some thoughts I had which is nice.
It's helpful in the sense you know where you stand legally. Now you're empowered to accept or reject W's D offer...if it comes to that. She offers a fair deal to you under the law, or better yet a favorable deal to you...accept it! She offers an unfavorable deal under the law...reject it. Run anything by a L before accepting (without her telling her).

Originally Posted by DW17
They both said if I get divorced I'll be financially screwed between child support, alimony and whatever my new rent/mortgage is.
Drives me nuts that the bad party has no penalty for their actions. They broke a vow. Really, broke a contract...but often times get rewarded financially. It feels like the affair should at least void any spousal support. But the law is the law.

Originally Posted by DW17
She has also talked with a friend who filed for divorce by having her and her husband fill out the paperwork and just having a L review everything at the end to save money. W said she intends to do the same thing eventually, which will only cause problems if we can’t agree on the big items.
Good! Now YOU know where you stand under the law. Let her make an offer and if it's fair or favorable (under the law) accept it.

Originally Posted by DW17
I don’t think she has a clue how much child support and alimony she is entitled to per the L’s I talked to.
Good! Let your knowledge and her ignorance be your advantage.

Originally Posted by DW17
If we work through things without her getting a L, do I even bring this up, or just let her sift through it on her own and only fight it if I don’t like the results?
DO NOT share ANY legal knowledge with her. SHE is the cheater. It's a business negotiation now. You protect you (and the kids of course). If she wants to leave and wants it to be easy, let her ignorantly give you a better deal.

Originally Posted by DW17
Do I just try to avoid any talk about D altogether?
Right. DB'ing would say no R talks. Don't block her from leaving (you can't anyway), but don't help her either.

Originally Posted by DW17
But for the first time it feels like D is inevitable.
It's BD - and likely even before that - D was extremely likely.

Originally Posted by DW17
W’s biggest concern right now is making sure we don’t mess up D18’s senior year of high school so she wants us to work together, even if that means her moving downstairs until D18 is done with school.
What do you think is best for D18 (and your other kids)? If you agree, then go along with it. From now on before you make any decision you should consider "what is best for the kids?".

Originally Posted by DW17
do I just basically kick her out of the room?
No sure you can force her out, but packing up her stuff and putting it in the basement with an air mattress might resign her to it.

Originally Posted by DW17
W has gotten mad at me for lack of communication and ignoring her, which is probably justified.
Listen very closely. W is going to be mad at you no matter what you do. She is likely feeling guilty and bad about herself due to her actions and will project that on you.

Even if you walked on eggshells and tried to appease her 110% she's still going to lash out at you for something. One example on here we used recently is it's her birthday and you get her a card/present she'll be upset because she told you she needs space and is done and you're not listening, but if you don't get anything for her she'll use it as an example of how you don't care and it justifies her affair/leaving.

Your goal IS NOT to avoid making her mad. Your goal is to do what's best for you and your kids.

Originally Posted by DW17
I don’t know. I think I may have pivoted a little too far toward ignoring and may need to shift a little more toward aloof yet available, while being conscious of my boundaries of not doing things for her. Just being friendly and validating her feelings. Or maybe I was doing things right and I should continue with that. It’s a tough line to walk.
You're overthinking it IMO. Don't spend time thinking about how you should act for her benefit - you do you at this point.

Originally Posted by DW17
My wife’s cousin reached out to me to offer support and asked me to join them at the pumpkin patch this weekend. I decided that I will go. I look forward to it every year. She has been pretty much the only constant support for me, W and the kids through our entire relationship, even though she lives 3 hours away. I’ve been closer to her family than my own. It feels like the right decision.
Not sure that's the best decision. Your time might be better spent in the gym or watching more baseball with friends...but also don't think it's going to make or break the situation.

Originally Posted by DW17
And I am on to a new book “Codependent No More.” I’ve gotten good info from each book I’ve read. Hopefully this one does as well. Also, I PR’d a 5k last night and I’m 5 pounds from my weight goal.
Awesome! Keep up the reading and exercising.


Me:39 Ex-W:37
M:7 T: 9
S:6 D:3
BD/IHS/Confirm EA/PA: Feb '20
OM1 affair ends: May '20
W/OM2 & moves out: June-July '20
W files for D: Jul20
OM2 confirmed: 9/2020
Divorced: May '21