Valeska,

Thank you for clarifying. I want to say that you and your sitch have been valuable to me and I read quite a bit of your posts while I was going through the thick of my own. You had a different perspective from me and others, and I valued that.

Your post here, keeping up on the different perspective, the part of Jesus - cant say I fully disagree. I'm rereading the Bible from scratch at times of peace. Its not as fire and brimstone as I remember.

The triggering part is the only thing I can intelligently contend with and I'm not fond to make this point again as I am painting myself victim in the scenario. I think its a valuable lesson though for those interested and lurkers; and a warning I have to tie in.

Now Im on my own thread, talking about my innermost thoughts, and how difficult it is to attempt something because of language and I said ". For example, "no harsh language", well um, we can't even agree on what a man and woman are so how is one supposed to know what is allowed?". Now that is pure truth, meant to be light and I see no verbiage targeting, excluding, no harsh language, no foul language, a sentence some agreed with, some not. Am I to step around land mines in everything I write here in the event that someone is indirectly and unintentionally hurt? Everyone is bother by everything. Any single thing may offend a person. Ive see it alot here and I let it go if its not targeted at me. How often on the forums have we heard how miserable it is and how often people on the forums had to step around landmines in their relationships? How its frequently a sign of abuse?

Here is the response I received while venting about staring fate, misery and existence in the face, on my thread:
"My trans son is a better, kinder, more Christ-like human being than you could ever dream of being. Why don’t you concern yourself more with your own business than with contributing to a world that puts my son’s life in danger by your hateful rhetoric? Christ was not a hater."

That seems targeted, hateful, directed Etc. doesnt it? The solution being I should've been compassionate as well...no, there is nothing I see to do differently. If someone is triggered by a remark on someones own thread, targeted at no one, with no blaming, fingering, pointing or direct language, I think lashing out at them (and calling it what it is) abusively, does not make both parties guilty of wrong doing.

These forums we build each other up, we learned validation, boundaries, learned about abuse. Now as many things today, what once was great is tarnished. I figured us on the forums are some of the best of the best. We spend years correcting behaviors, years bouncing thoughts through different perspectives to grow ourselves and each other. To stretch our minds, to be better humans.

Now I bring up othering because I had my own expectation, erroroneously, that people on the forums here who have been in the situation would understand. See there are alot of Americans being othered. Right now. Not just by random people on forums, no, by top politicians on both sides, by at least half of MSM, in magazines, books, in schools, in corporations. Now I said warning earlier because many who pay attention to history know what happens next. One side will light a fuse and its usually the side doing the othering with the gov having their back. Does anyone here want that? If not then for Gods sakes people need to stop being extreme and stand up together. It was done for skin color, it was done for womens rights, it was done for lgb but where are the voices speaking up for anyone that is not and I hate using this label as its general, far left authoritarian? Has no one else seen how much the gov has been crushing the middle class, ALL races, ALL identities.

My own gov officials in multiple agencies and even the president call me a domestic terrorist because, yes me, because I think there was some fraud, and its been proven. How much, I dont know, would it change results, I dont know but I'm not allowed to ask, and I'm likely on a list, for having an "incorrect thought or feeling". My brother who is in armed services has been advised to take caution and not like any posts or communicate on social media to anyone that mentioned anything about fraud. Well, I certainly said I'd be interested in seeing if the machines to mess with our votes. Weird how good people never get elected. So hey, I guess life goes on and my brother has to risk his career to talk to me for questioning a hackable machine. If stuff like this doesnt unite us, then well, America will topple and its hell for anyone thats an outsider, and I bet thats most of us here, many of us are outsiders in one shape or another.


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