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Originally Posted by DonH
I would just suggest to you that, like IRL, its likely more balanced than you may suspect. There’s a silent component of people who, like you, get frustrated and give up or just don’t want to deal with it anymore. I hear from some of them privately but they don’t want to post those thought here - likeky for the same reasons you have. That’s exactly how a more vocal minority gets their way - by shutting the rest of us down. They can’t win on the merrris so they switch to calling us names like you experienced after you asked legitimate questions in your area.
Lots if truth here and yes, the name calling is something else and its usually from the "dont bully" crowd, which is no surprise these days.

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So I’d encourage you to stay and to continue to comment. I really do think the tide is about to change. People have had enough.
Seeing as I have brothers and maybe some sisters on here, I'm being convinced to stay.

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esides there is real progress happening - everything used to be Trumps fault - everything! TDS should be added to the DSM-5. But that too has changed, now it’s all Putins fault!!!
The TDS line is hilarious!

I'm pretty sure anyone not extreme is going to be labeled as "as bad or worse than Putin" in the next few months.


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For anyone that is interested, here is the reality, albeit depressing of what it looks like if I decided to get in to the dating market.

General facts of me:
Late 30s
Divorced
2 young kids
High cost of living state, in a medium cost of living in a high cost of living burb
Average height
Below average weight
Average looks
Hairline is holding on like the Spartans towards the end of 300. Some losses and a full blown defeat is near
Average health
Above average income
Not in touch at all with modern culture and probably considered centrist, libertarian or conservative depending on who is labeling

What I would be looking for whether its right, wrong or unreasonable:
22 - 36 year old Female
Height - shorter than me
Weight - 20lbs or more less than me
Looks - above average
Personality - someone not extreme, not in to todays culture
No stds
Lives close by as in the same city
Single or divorced

Already we know where this is going. My cities census is old, I'm going to say there is 250k people here. For simple math, will say half are women. 125k remaining. 34% of females here are under 18 and over 65, no idea how many is my dating range, lets say 30%. 37500 remaining.

Height...cant find good data. Lets shave off 1 in 10 being my height or taller, thats prob a low estimate. 33750 remaining. Lets shave off 5 in 10 in regards to weighing less than I, and to not double count those taller and bigger.
16875 prospects remaining.

Above average looks is the remaining amount...based on the criteria we already looked at and the age range here, lets say 80 percent remaining are above average. 13500 remain.

A woman of my criteria is unlikely to be single or divorced. Lets say 30% remain. 4050 prospects.

Stds are rampant here and I'm guessing women in the range I'm looking at have more fun than average. 2500 remain.

At this point Im going to ignore personality. We'll call it 2500.

Now, out of these 2500 prospective dates, how many are ok with a guy who is under 6ft? 1500 left.
A guy who is below average (US) weight. 1300 left.
Divorced with kids. 300 left.
Average looks but will be bald. 150 left.
Take in my personality and being counter modern culture and living is a far left authoritarian city. 25 left?
Will settle for above average income - 20 left.

There is maybe twenty prospects here that I would date and that would potentially date me. I'm sure its less than I estimated here. I'm going to call it 10. Maybe ten in 125k that I'd date and would date me.

On top of that, I don't even want to date, cant afford it, and would rather use money on kids.
0 remaining. Bachelor life it is.

For this reason as I've accepted this information, I'd rather repurpose my time from pleasure, to making the world less insane.


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Average looks looking for above average looks ?

Im curious .

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Originally Posted by Ginger1
Average looks looking for above average looks ?

Im curious .
If I were to go through all the turmoil dating would lead to, I'd at least want to see a pretty face.

Unreasonable and unrealistic as it may be. As I don't want to date, I'd need convincing to even try.


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I'm curious why so young? Would you like more children?


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Originally Posted by Valeska19
I'm curious why so young? Would you like more children?

Also curious. Late 30’s interested in a 22!year old?

Is this because you aren’t looking to date and it’s all just fantasy?

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Originally Posted by Valeska19
I'm curious why so young? Would you like more children?
I wouldn't have minded a 3rd kid and still would if the world gets way worse. As it is today, no, I wouldn't want a kid having an old dad and I don't like the idea of my kids having to deal with the weird family structure. I say I'd date as low as 22 as it means more prospects but also highly attractive to me. That's a number that'll rise as I age.

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But are you a pretty face?
I really am not a good judge of my face compared to other men. I've never been called ugly by a woman or someone that wasn't my buddy being a turd. Foreign women really liked me, I dated lots of above average women in my prime, gay dudes at work over the years are full of compliments. Alas, I say average as the fates handed me a minor injury that threw off my facial symmetry.


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This is super interesting.

You feel you are average in looks big want an above average woman.

You are in your late 30’s but want a woman on her early 20’s who doesn’t want kids of her own.

Is this like a fantasy world wants thing?

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Originally Posted by Ginger1
This is super interesting.

You feel you are average in looks big want an above average woman.
Looks in men is not equal to looks in women. The average woman is way better looking than the average man. I'm assuming in this fantasy/prospective future that my income or social status being above average make up for not being a top handsome guy.

Originally Posted by Ginger1
You are in your late 30’s but want a woman on her early 20’s who doesn’t want kids of her own.

Is this like a fantasy world wants thing?
Early twenties through mid 30s. Not just early 20s. But yes I come across younger 20s ladies when I'm in the park or out and about that I talk to and know instantly that I would date, if I got in to dating. We obviously wouldn't connect or have much in common.

Now if I were in an East or South East Asian country, these stats would be way different. When I've been to countries in the past, I had so many prospects it was crazy. Suddenly when Im above average height, weight, muscle, status, and different facial features, I imagine its what top guys in America feel like. I'd likely date closer in age and pick a woman of similar interests.


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