Originally Posted by DonH
[quote=LH19]Well this is in a nutshell why OLDing doesn’t work. Most men don’t understand women so he thinks he’s doing the right thing by letting you pick the place. He’s excited to meet you so that’s creepy. If he didn’t text enough there is no connection. The avg man can’t win.

Middle age independent women are hard to please. That is why the avg woman responds to 1 out of every 120 messages.

Originally Posted by LH19
You’re going to deny it LH to keep you’re pride but I could have written the same thing you just did. You’re correct, most guys can’t win.
Well Don I did say the avg man and I am lucky enough to be blessed genetically with some of the traits that the picky middle age women are looking for. Now having said that OLD is still frustrating for me at times but not enough for me to give it up.
Originally Posted by LH19
Perhaps it’s validation that the coach at least gets some things right - don’t text too much, nothing good can come from it.
He does. Again another way a man can't win. He reads books he's a learning game or not sincere. He trusts his instincts and he over pursues and turns a woman off.
Originally Posted by LH19
He’d have been much better off setting the date and shutting up.
That is exactly what the coach suggests. Less ways of talking a woman out of liking you.

So I was listening to a pod cast and they ask 5 women what are must for a relationship with a man. After polling the women based height, income, build, etc. they ran the numbers and it made up .017 of the population. So that help explains why OLD does not work for the avg person.