Core - Still Alive #7?

[DejaVu6]

Personally… I’m really glad I was raised in a different place than you. Would hate to be so jaded and distrusting. I worked in media for a number or years. Met a lot of people who did as well. Very trustworthy, upstanding people trying to make a difference in their own way… as was I. Decided it didn’t pay well enough though so I went back to school and got two more degrees before finally landing in mental health. Look… I get there are some corrupt people out there. You can find them in any profession and walk of life. There are also some really, really amazing, honourable and brilliant people who have devoted their lives to service of others in different forms. I’ve met and worked with some politicians who are as well. Painting everyone with the same brush is a mistake Core and kind of explains your depression and cynicism.

[kml]

Long Covid is DEFINITELY real! I’ve treated several patients and have followed an online group of long Covid patients for a year and a half. And even in the absence of true Long Covid, those who have had Covid - even mild cases - have an increased risk of heart attack, stroke, or blood clots over the next year. Recent studies have proven this.

My first long Covid case was a perfectly healthy 35 year old woman who started with just a flu-like outpatient case. She ended up being completely disabled for a year, too fatigued and cognitively impaired to even care for her own children, they had to move in with her folks. She couldn’t work for over a year. She then worked part time for six months and could only return to full time work after 21 months. But even then, when she returned from work she was so exhausted that her H had to do everything in the evenings.

[Core]

This masculine vs. feminine energy is BS. It’s not worth making small changes and impact, it’s not worth doing something that is “feminine” which you feel doesn’t make change. Only big scale “masculine” stuff does?

I think you partially misread or misinterpreted what I wrote, or I didn't write it clearly however I'm not here to argue. Small things like helping the homeless or meals on wheels type programs feel like more feminine caregiver energy and don't interest me. I would rather address big picture problems that are difficult, and enduring.

On top of that, it’s not a good thing to teach kids young about different cultures, skin colors, etc?

No, its not. Its decisive and not needed. The racism and culture problem is blown out of proportion. This stuff can stay with parents. I do not want my kid pointing out people skin color and thats perfectly ok to have that belief. Whats going on is schools want to push this new radical culture and all others are bad. I don't see all cultures being accepted in school nor even on these boards. One culture is demonized and my family is part of that culture. God isnt allowed to be taught in schools here...ok, I get that and am ok with that but Hindu holidays are taught. To me, it should be none of them. My kids are multiracial and multicultural. I think I have a better perspective on what works well for them, than government officials.

they aren’t teaching sex Ed. They teach children to respect their bodies and protect them at a young age.

They indeed are. I read the entire bill that legislation passed and by first grade, they introduce discussions of hormone blockers.

This is of course all way way way above our pay grade. I have a feeling because you seem to think the world is a conspiracy right now, you wouldn’t trust a mental health professional. I hope your find some peace and hope somewhere in your life

To think there aren't conspiracies is a conspiracy theory. I didn't say the whole world is a conspiracy. And yes, super rich and governments do meet and conspire behind closed doors. They openly admit this and they openly put out documentation from some of their meetings. It's not a secret, people just don't pay attention yet wonder why things are happening in the world. We are literally told this stuff is going to happen. That's what bothers me, is I'll watch a meeting and present a document to friends or family, and I'm told I'm a conspiracy theorist but they follower teleprompter readers on all sides of the media.

I hope to find peace too, but I dont see it coming while living in a state thats feels extreme against my beliefs and despite saying to respect all cultures, largely demonizes or ignore the ethnicities and cultures of my kids. Now some may say I'm acting like a victim here however I'd say passed legislation that doesnt include certain groups is legit victimization. So, to counter this, I hope to at find some purpose and way to help others, till I can move my family to a more accepting place.

[kml]

I think your anxiety and depression would benefit from some of that “feminine energy” (sorry but that’s a ridiculous thing to say) of interacting with people in need by doing something like Meals on Wheels. You need to get out of your own head and develop some empathy. Do you think Christ had “feminine energy” when he washed Mary Magdalene’s feet? I don’t know what bible you’re reading, but Christ most definitely would have taken food to shut-ins. I suggest you try it. I honestly believe it will help you with your depression and anxiety.

[Core]

Personally… I’m really glad I was raised in a different place than you. Would hate to be so jaded and distrusting. I worked in media for a number or years. Met a lot of people who did as well. Very trustworthy, upstanding people trying to make a difference in their own way… as was I. Decided it didn’t pay well enough though so I went back to school and got two more degrees before finally landing in mental health. Look… I get there are some corrupt people out there. You can find them in any profession and walk of life. There are also some really, really amazing, honourable and brilliant people who have devoted their lives to service of others in different forms. I’ve met and worked with some politicians who are as well. Painting everyone with the same brush is a mistake Core and kind of explains your depression and cynicism.

I'm not saying its all policians or media but it is alot of the ones at the top. Its the nature of things that they corrupt and something new comes along which many times end up with the same fate.

I like the positive vibes in your reply. It is hard for me to see some of the positives when I see so many negatives. I'd love a break from it. I really just want to be left alone, I don't want to be preached to at work, from the school, from TV, on the radio, in music, in the mail. To me pushing this current culture is like atheists constantly having a mormon at their door, on Tv, mailing them..etc. and dont get me wrong, the modern culture isn't all bad but shoving it down our throats and being extreme is too much.

[DejaVu6]

I don’t think you are alone in feeling that way. I would say all of us are suffering from information overload these days. Self care and acts of kindness are the things I do to stay sane these days. Sending you lots of (((hugs))) my friend.

[Core]

I think your anxiety and depression would benefit from some of that “feminine energy” (sorry but that’s a ridiculous thing to say) of interacting with people in need by doing something like Meals on Wheels. You need to get out of your own head and develop some empathy. Do you think Christ had “feminine energy” when he washed Mary Magdalene’s feet? I don’t know what bible you’re reading, but Christ most definitely would have taken food to shut-ins. I suggest you try it. I honestly believe it will help you with your depression and anxiety.

To say I lack empathy is just insulting. Are you painting me black because I remind you of people you don't like with some of my beliefs? Shoveling my elderly neighbors yards, protecting neighbors kids when their parents miss the bus, helping neighbors find their lost pets, picking up litter across three blocks, being kind to an ex wife I hate, loving and listening to a local mom that believes the Q nonsense, and more all while humbling doing it and wanting no thanks and I lack empathy? I think you and I live in to different worlds. All that stuff I do, is mostly ineffective at helping preventing societies degradation as its solving little. I like doing it but I want to do something more, for God, for us. We can all pick and choose parts of the bible to prove a point. The overall encompassing theme of the new testament was a massive big picture change, along with small things like loving your neighbor. Im going to take a break from here again for awhile but will check in on some friends here and there.

Unchien, if you come across this thread, glad you're doing well. LH, Steve, Ginger and some of the others, I'll not forget your actions helping others here. Mumin, I hope things keep going in your favor. Lastly, I hope others can find peace in their lives and find our center again, where we were happy as a society, which lead to more love, more innovation and made us examples for the world to follow, while simultaneously leading to evil hiding under rocks instead of being out in the open and rampant.

[DonH]

I hope to find peace too, but I don't see it coming while living in a state thats feels extreme against my beliefs and despite saying to respect all cultures, largely demonizes or ignore the ethnicities and cultures of my kids.

Wow, where do I even start? I could have pulled a dozen quotes from 4 or 5 different posters. Let me start here, I don't know much about you Core. Are you depressed? Perhaps, I have no way of knowing. However, I can tell you this, it appears you and I share a great number of beliefs in common and I can assure you I AM NOT DEPRESSED. What I am is pssd! Very pssd that my country is being hijacked by a crazy minority that wants to take us back to the very things we fought to leave from. Schools? OMG again where do I start? The best thing you can do is get your children out of the total failure that is public education these days - it's become public indoctrination in too many schools. Far too many kids cannot spell, cannot add or subtract, cannot even make change when running the check-out counter. But they can tell you about non-binary or having their penis removed if that's what they feel needs to occur and on and on. Home school if you can. Pool together with neighbors to make it happen. Move them to private school if you can afford it. Or find the best school choice school available - if that is even an option in your area.

I'm not going to argue each and every point. I just want to support and reinforce to you that having the beliefs you have does not make you depressed in and of itself. What else can you do? Well many, many others have moved away. I can't tell you how many of my friends have left their crazy state or disintegrating city to move to a place with more like people. New York, California, Illinois and other states are seeing record numbers of people flee. It's happening all over the place and is saving the sanity of some of these people. Because as you state, you can't easily fight the corruption and craziness that has taken hold. And when you do, they try to convince you that YOU are the problem, it's you, it's depression, you're raciest, you're not woke, you're just not smart enough to understand.

Just please do not think it's you and you're thinking is wrong. It is not. You are not alone. You and I may be a minority on a long since past it's prime discussion board with a dozen people left but widen the sample size and you'll see you are in the majority or close. I guess we'll find out this November. I'm betting you and I will be again shown to be in the majority. People are waking up and they've had enough.

Way too much else to comment on but well stated, actually very well stated core.

[Core]

Wow, where do I even start? I could have pulled a dozen quotes from 4 or 5 different posters. Let me start here, I don't know much about you Core. Are you depressed? Perhaps, I have no way of knowing. However, I can tell you this, it appears you and I share a great number of beliefs in common and I can assure you I AM NOT DEPRESSED. What I am is pssd! Very pssd that my country is being hijacked by a crazy minority that wants to take us back to the very things we fought to leave from.

Yes and yes. It's very much anger I'm feeling, mixed in with anxiety, demoralization and hopelessness. Our culture is attacked, our country, our values, beliefs, skin color, and for me even my very spirit, body and mind threatened just for asking people for example this question "when do you think we should lift the mask mandates locally". Local what I call fascist chapters which I didnt know were in my city thought questioning things was wrong and I received every label in the book and multiple threats, over that question.

Schools? OMG again where do I start? The best thing you can do is get your children out of the total failure that is public education these days - it's become public indoctrination in too many schools. Far too many kids cannot spell, cannot add or subtract, cannot even make change when running the check-out counter. But they can tell you about non-binary or having their penis removed if that's what they feel needs to occur and on and on. Home school if you can. Pool together with neighbors to make it happen. Move them to private school if you can afford it. Or find the best school choice school available - if that is even an option in your area.

My only hope here because my Ex loves the school system, is I can get the kids in private or home school for half their time in school. Some schools here according to a family member who was in them were allowing kids to opt out of tests because of equity and hurt feelings over their potential scores. To me, thats extreme and disadvantages the kids.

I'm not going to argue each and every point. I just want to support and reinforce to you that having the beliefs you have does not make you depressed in and of itself. What else can you do? Well many, many others have moved away. I can't tell you how many of my friends have left their crazy state or disintegrating city to move to a place with more like people. New York, California, Illinois and other states are seeing record numbers of people flee. It's happening all over the place and is saving the sanity of some of these people. Because as you state, you can't easily fight the corruption and craziness that has taken hold. And when you do, they try to convince you that YOU are the problem, it's you, it's depression, you're raciest, you're not woke, you're just not smart enough to understand.

I appreciate it Don. I'd love to flee with my kids but alas, the only way I can move is if the Ex also moves and somehow we agree to move to the same state. She's only interested in NY, CA and NC currently. I understand why so many are leaving the states due to how they are treated and accept that I'm going to be and will be treated as an outsider, someone different, as a minority where I live. And not in a be proud and its ok way. 3 murders over the weekend, 10 shootings, carjackings...the joys of my small but violent city that is in the top 5 most violent AND its increasing for years on end. My local jail let the sex offenders out because of covid, how wonderful, I feel so much safer, cant imagine how the raped women and children from those men must feel seeing their assailants out early.

Just please do not think it's you and you're thinking is wrong. It is not. You are not alone. You and I may be a minority on a long since past it's prime discussion board with a dozen people left but widen the sample size and you'll see you are in the majority or close. I guess we'll find out this November. I'm betting you and I will be again shown to be in the majority. People are waking up and they've had enough.

I'm just shocked, here on the boards I learned about what gaslighting is, got good resources on validating, on understanding controlling actions, words and mannerisms, learned about covert narc traits, developed more give and take, male and female differences in the D process, being a rock and stoic. The board, divorce process and my own counseling did me so well, that my despite my already distrust of Gov and media, my newfound abilities began to really cut through and help me see through the stronger lies of the media and politicians, especially some left leaning politicians and some right leaning media companies I had yet to see through. I began to see through the BS on reddit, facebook, my kids school district, and now corporate communications. Once you see how the lies are done, how they repeat like a m0ckingbird and coerce, it gets easier and easier to have strong discernment. Like my company as soon as they started pushing transparency, I knew it wasnt long until the inversion of what they said would occur. Four months later company communications are the worse and most ambiguous they've ever been.

Anyways I'm ranting here, but the board helped me greatly and I'm disappointed in how so much I cherish, love and respect is becoming inverted. This very inversion thats happening in so many aspects of our culture is what pushed me to the Bible and I'm thankful for that. We should all be able to agree on whats reality but the waters are so muddied, there is so much fear, and so many people adopt the destructive. Whether the culture is really driven by the people or pushed by artificial means, people seem to adopt it as the feeling of being an outsider to the culture is similar to that feeling early in the divorce. Our instincts kick in of our tribe kicking us out (LH19 words the tribe analogy well).

Alas back to you Don, I wish the best for you. I'll check in time to time. I really didnt expect to come here and find the board more like Reddit. I thought the board would be still well rounded and all around helpful. Balanced.

[DonH]

I really didnt expect to come here and find the board more like Reddit. I thought the board would be still well rounded and all around helpful. Balanced.

I would just suggest to you that, like IRL, its likely more balanced than you may suspect. There’s a silent component of people who, like you, get frustrated and give up or just don’t want to deal with it anymore. I hear from some of them privately but they don’t want to post those thought here - likeky for the same reasons you have. That’s exactly how a more vocal minority gets their way - by shutting the rest of us down. They can’t win on the merrris so they switch to calling us names like you experienced after you asked legitimate questions in your area. So I’d encourage you to stay and to continue to comment. I really do think the tide is about to change. People have had enough. Besides there is real progress happening - everything used to be Trumps fault - everything! TDS should be added to the DSM-5. But that too has changed, now it’s all Putins fault!!!