Originally Posted by SteveLW
We aren't talking about a woman that was cheated on or abused here.
This is the million dollar statement that puts most LBH here. This was the bar many, many years ago. The stakes have change and unfortunately no one is telling the players that the game has changed. Nothing in school, nothing in college most don't find out until it's too late. You get married you get a marriage license. Heck now when you get a job you get a couple page long job description on what is expect of you. Esther Perel has a great podcast on what is expected out of a mate in today's world. Everything that an entire village use to provide. The institution of marriage is an outdated practice that will IMO eventually die out as it is no longer needed for survival.

Scotty B you said it best that this will make you a better parent and later on a better partner. Many lessons to be learned by failure.