Originally Posted by kml
That number is meaningless without knowing the number of unvaccinated deaths.

Nearly 2,500 Covid deaths in fully vaccinated people is meaningless. Good to know.

Originally Posted by kml
So stop trying to say vaccines don’t work. We knew from the initial studies that 10-% of vaccinated could still get the virus, but that you were extremely unlikely to die on a ventilator.

Guess you’ll have to tell that to these people and families. And I’m not at all saying vaccines don’t work. I’m saying they don’t work nearly as well as advertised, as well as you think they do and for 100% certain they don’t work at 100% as this doctor claimed. That 90% stat is also clearly not holding up.

Originally Posted by kml
Also, scroll down the Minnesota page and dig into the data and you will see deaths among the unvaccinated are consistently ten times higher across all age groups.

Once again, not true. The pundits try to claim 90% but both the Minnesota and Illinois stats show closer to 66% or one third are breakthrough cases - not 90%

Vaccines most certainly do help - especially in elderly at risk populations. They most certainly should get vaccinated. Being vaccinated will help many people. Meanwhile in Cook County Illinois far greater children have died by being shot to death than from Covid. Vaccinated children will do next to nothing when compared to vaccinating a senior citizen.

I just want people to be truthful, stop speculating and stop guessing. Telling the public “get vaccinated and you can’t get or transmit Covid to someone else” like our president did only puts more doubt into peoples minds when they see it’s clearly not true. The vaccines simply have not worked as advertised. The official state data proves it. That is, the data for states who actually collect and report it. Nearly 75% of states are not collecting and reporting breakthrough case data. Hmmmmmm I wonder why that is.


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