Rope dropping and grey rocks

[97Hope]

Thanks D. I will. Eldest called today to say that XH called him because he wasn't able to get ahold of me. "She's sad. She doesn't want to talk to you. Don't call her" (I think he was kind to him about it, but that was the gist of it.)

He said that XH said "I'm sad, too. We had a great time in OK, and it was really hard after that".

Ugh. So sad that you spent the next night with OW?? More of the same.


Eagle, I didn't think he had an OW. He had one for 4 years, it started approx 3-6 months prior to BD.

He continued to say he needed help. He went to an IC in the beginning of the separation but said he didn't know what to talk about (since he lives in deceit, he wasn't facing his reality, so no amount of therapy will help).

Up until 2 months or so he would say how "f-ed" up he was, he needed help, his "issues", sometimes break down talking about it...but he did not get help, did not change, and continues to live a lie. He acts like a great family man, a good guy, but in reality, he's full course on a path to destroying everything that used to be important to him.

I knew he had an OP but I couldn't prove it. I operated on what I could prove, that was how I chose to handle this. But ultimately, I have yet to see where they do not have someone at least waiting in the sidelines.

My XH still maintains that his OP is just a friend. So believe none of what they say right now.