I’m sorry you view this as bullying. That was never the intent. The intent to to hopefully make yourself look in the mirror and hold yourself accountable. Because you justify bad decisions, and you have an issue with anyone who disagrees with you.

KitKat, please read Steve’s post. MWD also doesn’t recommend staying or fixing a marriage that involves abuse.

I’m aware of what unconditional love is. But unconditional loves isn’t an excuse or justification for bad choices. I love my kids unconditionally, but if they make an unwise choice, or a dangerous one, I don’t stand back as say, well that’s ok, because I love them.

I don’t understand why you seem to take my post so personally. You seem to be able to ignore everyone that disagrees or says something you don’t like, but take my post personally. Let me assure you, I’m raising 4 daughters, one who was abused horrendously, and 3 who got to witness it. 2 weeks ago my second oldest, said “Dad, you know what’s messed up, I thought the way D16 was treated and the lying Mom did to get the rest of us in trouble was normal in every family”. KitKat, I fear abuse has been normalized with you.

Btw, someone still involved in an active affair, meeting woman at 4am an hour away to have sex in a car isn’t working on their past transgressions. Their working on getting a piece of action because they’re a serial cheater. Leaving her, getting therapy, being alone for a while, fixing their relationship with the kids, and than you would be working on their issues. It’s just sad to me you’ll never see that because you need counseling.

Edit…let me just add, how do you claim unconditional love when you had an affair with the pilot, where ready to divorce your husband, and move completely along with the pilot and was crushed when he didn’t return the feelings? Did you unconditionally love your H than?

Feel free to keep posting. I don’t have much to add to your situation. And it’s obvious you don’t want any advice unless it agrees with your own point of view.

Good luck, and please stay safe.

Last edited by JosephS; 08/13/21 03:43 PM.

Me: 40
EX:37
Together 17 years
Married 16 years
5 kids, 20,18,15,14,11

BD 03/06/20, divorced 12/23/21