Originally Posted by wayfarer
Steve,

Just to clear up the perspective a bit. I have the high drive. So I do truly understand what it's like to be in that position in a SSM. So while I have empathy, it would've never occurred to me to keep begging until he gave in. One no is enough for me. I have cried myself to sleep many, many night being rejected by men regarding physical intimacy. Also because of that role reversal me begging and begging and begging to be touched for months at a time was used against me when I tried to refuse. So my situation was slightly atypical from a standard SSM where the wife is gatekeeping physical intimacy.

As far as the self awareness, Steve, you felt exactly the way a self aware person would feel after this. If you don't feel this way after coercing some one into something there is something wrong. My point is not every man, or husband feels this way. A lot of them go on about their day. Hence my statement on self awareness.


Thanks, yes I think we've talked before about the fact you were the high desire partner. However, I think there is a difference between men and women in this regard. We (men) WILL beg, plead, connive, lie, etc. to get a women to sleep with us. Thus the whole "I love you" lie that plenty of guys have floated out there in order to "get some". I am not excusing that. It is sad, pathetic, unethical AND immoral. And I regret to say to say, I've been guilty of those things. (Not the "I love you" lie, I would never do that.)


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