Steve, he's in a national health care system. And given his issues he can't out of pocket for a private practitioner. He's on a list but still has a few more weeks to go. He's trying, and I'm keeping my fingers crossed for him that the time line they gave him is true. I had to reach out to my EAP and then out of pocket for my IC. I was put on a waiting list in 2 health care systems for somebody in my network and both told me 8-12 weeks. So his time line isn't too bad in comparison. I was then told at the 8 at week mark that it would like be another 8 weeks but they we're kind enough to refer me to the online CBT and a hotline if I "felt like I was in a mental health crisis." I think hunkering down on self care and being here for support is about there is to offer right now.