It was MLC. Now I am calling moving forward.

[Wolfman]

Did she LOOK terrified? What did D say to you?

D did say anything. Ex did all the talking. She said she came home because my d was terrified to go with me. Terrified? Right before this “2 week break” with my d I took my kids to a museum in the city and lunch. We had a great time. I said I was trying to call my d. Ex’s response was she text you. I said I know but I would have liked to talk to her on the phone. Ex response was why? If you were texting her. My d said nothing.

That’s a lot of speculation on your part. How do you know XW parked in the garage so you wouldn’t see her car? Deer in the headlights look on XW doesn’t really track either. And honestly, whether your daughter said she was terrified or not, I still don’t see how this is alienation. Did she physically block you from talking to your d? You have NO idea what is being said when you aren’t around and there could be many reasons your d is not wanting to spend time with you. She’s a teenager! I agree with everyone’s advice to focus on you and just treat your d with kindness and love. Playing tug of war with your XW using your d as the rope is only going to end badly for all of you. If she won’t come with you, enjoy time with your son. Let her know she is missed and that you love her but you respect her boundaries. Stop expending your energy trying to prove parental alienation when that energy could be expended on something positive.

She never parks her car in the garage. So obviously she was trying to hide that she was home. My d did t say she was terrified never did she say that is our text conversation, my ex said it in front of her. You mentioned I have no idea what is being said when I am not around. I do a while back and yes I know I said a while back I saw my d cell phone and the conversations she was having with her mom. Her was saying things like to hide things from me, aren’t you happy you don’t have to spend time with dad, that I am a loser, things like that. So, I can’t imagine it has ever got better.
C.W. Your first response about taking her to dinner with just my son, I have been doing that for 8 months now. For my d at times I have put my pregnant gf on the back burner to appease my d.