Hi SaltyDog, i can relate to your last post as i can also see how certain NGS traits led me to the breakdown of our R. I also blamed myself for everything for a long time but like you im starting to see she had a big part in it as well. Know what you mean about the struggle, even if i know she is just temp checking or she is keeping me on a string i cant force myself to be blunt with her or ignore messages. I start to care and NGS comes out and as soon as it does her reactions change. Your response about the codependency also hits home, been trying to figure out why i want someone back that has hurt me so much and after all she has done and i dont have a good answer other than my self respect is so low that i feel thats all i deserve or its fear that i wont find someone else.

Reading your thread about the NGS got me thinking: is it correlation or causation that WW and NGS tend to end up together. It seems like more than a coincidence that most guys here with NGS end up having WW, and im wondering if these 2 personality types tend to be drawn/attracted to each other or if NGS traits start bringing out rebellion, resentment and other WW traits in the women (and vice versa whether WW types make NGS traits more amplified). I used to be quite confident and in charge in my relationship until she cheated and then my NGS went into overdrive, tried to do everything for her but got passive aggresive and built resentment expecting it to be reciprocated.


Me 32, W 24
T 6, M 3
No kids
BD: Aug 2020
OM: Jan 2021
Wife to file soon