Wayfarer, I hope you understand that I agree with much of what you said. I've never been a "demand respect" guy, I am more of a "command respect" guy. The person that has to verbally "demand" respect probably isn't worthy of respect. A person that conducts themselves in ways that engender respect do not have to demand respect.

However, male and female attraction is very different. Men can look past most personality and psychological issues a woman may have as long as he finds her looks attractive. Women tend to be much deeper than men when it comes to deep attraction and connection. It is less about gender roles and more about the biological impulses that control us.

One other question. I came to the board in Feb 2018, about 2 months into my sitch. And I immediately got tattoo'd with 2x4s by the vets here. And rightfully so! I keep seeing people refer to the "tone" of the board, but this change in tone certainly must of predated my arrival because I got flat beat up for my first few weeks here.

SD, that last paragraph from Wayfarer is gold. Please read it carefully. And as she suggests go back and reread AS's post. And remember, you do not get to control what she decides, but you do get to control how you react to her decision. Find that place where you are living your best life, a life only a fool wouldn't want to be a part of it, and let the chips fall where they may.


M(53), W(54),D(19)
M-23, T-25 Bomb Drop - Dec.23, 2017
Ring and Piecing since March 2018