It seems you forget everything you have read and learned under pressure. If your friends were shocked how it affected you I wonder what your reaction was in front of them. And even though you weren't near your W you still said all those things to her the moment you met her. It's as though you have been reading up on how to destroy even the slightest chance you might have on a possible future relationship with someone who leaves you.

I mean Pack, by all means go back to NC and work on you because that is all you should and can do, but please stop talking about not giving up! Please stop mentioning the rules because you break those rules over and over and over again.

Even if you had been cool, calm and collected in every interaction with her, even if you had been a perfect example on what one should do when DBing correctly, it could have taken a long time before she believed those changes and even then, as you know, she may not have changed her mind. But instead you have pushed and pressured her so many times now that I don't know what else anyone can say to you.

I really wish you the best and I am happy to hear you have friends who support you but please listen to them and move on. Forget about the one sentence you are holding on to from Sandi's list of rules "never give up". That's only applicable if you do everything else correct.


Me: 38
Stbxw: 35
No kids
Mini bd: February 6, 2019
ONS confirmed Sept 7, 2019
Told her to move out: September 8, 2019
W moved out: September 28, 2019
Divorce filed by me: September 23, 2019