Originally Posted by tom_h
Originally Posted by LH19
Originally Posted by tom_h
"Men use love to get sex, women use sex to get love."

So Tom I know you don't want me here but I am intrigued by this comment. So for clarification purposes are you saying the following?

Men will promise woman love if they have sex with them? Kinda like that song "Paradise by the dashboard Lights"?

A women uses her Vagina to get love? It has nothing to do with her personality, mind or successfulness?

Could it all be possible that sex is a result of mutual attraction, respect and fondness of one another where there is no bartering involved?

Just clarifying.


It's just an old adage that I've heard from several quarters. Put out there for comment by people with insight.


I think this line is true, but not an absolute. I would qualify it thusly:

"Troubled men use love to get sex, damaged women use sex to get love."

I think we've all witnessed this or seen examples of this, but it isn't normal or healthy. And it certainly is not universal. IE it isn't ALL men and ALL women. I know I was weird because while I wanted sex, I never wanted it just to have it. I had to care about the girl and have feelings for her. And I certainly met women that tried to use sex as a way to get a man to love her. But there was something in their past that was telling them that the other things LH mentioned, for them, were not good enough. They were good enough, and that they had to put out to get a man to love them.

If you think about it, that is very sad. Men lying and manipulating just to get into a woman's pants. And a women with such low self-esteem that she feels she has to do that to make the guy like her. So unhealthy...................


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