thanks for letting me know that I am not alone. Somedays, I think that I am just want to believe that he loves me and to get back together, that I just don't see that maybe he doesn't want to get back together. Deep in my heart, I feel that he just would not do everything, if he didn't want to get back together. I mean remaining friendly for your daughter's sake is one thing, but what we have been doing is beyond the "call of duty". but yesterday, I kinda did a bad thing. D was going to stay with me, but forgot clothes to wear to school for today, so while she was at dance, I went to ex's house to get the clothes and he was not home and on the kitchen counter was his phone bill and I know here comes the 2 x 4 and sure enough, he had called the tenant 's house at least six times during last month, the longest call was 18 minutes and on one day there were like 4 one minute calls placed. I know it was wrong and maybe there was something that was wrong or needed fixing, but the calls were like a 9 p.m. Ex told me that he doesn't want to date anyone or introduce a new "woman" in our d life until she is 18 yrs old. Now that is 5 yr from now and when d is 18 we are going to sell the 2 family because that money will be for d's college. then the tenant will not be his tenant anymore. and our d already knows who this woman is so really she isn't anyone "new" in her life. I wonder if this tenent will do the phone friend thing and wait until our d is 18. now listen to me I know I sound crazy, but somedays I feel like a fool for dbing that its for nothing and other days I feel in my heart that some days we will be together. I JUST DON"T KNOW!!