Originally Posted by Steve85
Remember, there is THE truth...then there is HER truth. LBSs get a bloody forehead bashing it against the wall trying to reconcile the two. Just except that this is her new reality, and move on.


Yes, you are right. I do try to see her side of things, and listen to learn, but the 'why's are a mystery sometimes. Forehead bashing, as you say. I still remember what LH19 said to me back in January, "You are trying to use logic and reason with an emotional human being."


Originally Posted by Steve85
How did the call with him go? Was this him confronting you over her accusations? Was it him not believing what she was telling him either? Or was it just a "I heard her side, I want to hear your side"?


FIL had reached out to W in a text message. W responded by email, including the comments I mentioned. FIL was disbelieving (in a surprised way) of much of it. He didn't call me to get my response but perhaps someone to listen to his defence of what W said about him.

FIL is a committed Christian and is firmly of the opinion we should be working on reconciliation. He has tried to talk to W about this. FIL sent an initial text message to W months ago. W felt it was judgemental. She read it to me (I couldn't see anything unloving or uneven about it). FIL tried to call W a few days later but she was so cross about it she hung up on him. W told me FIL has tried to call since. She told him that she was busy and would call later (with no intention of doing so). Now, several months later FIL has reached out again with another text message. W replied to say he was being unloving and unsupportive of her, and not what a father should be, and included the comments he mentioned to me. FIL sees his loving duty as telling W what scripture requires, whereas W wants to FIL to support her position whatever it is.

FIL is very much for 'us' (as opposed to being just for W or just for me). Being in the same camp as FIL is a double-edged sword however because W's relationship with FIL is rather rocky. I have to make sure his contact with me and my interactions with him can't be misinterpreted by W as if we are in cahoots with each other.

W has a very strong relationship with her mother. W's parents have been divorced a very long time (since before we were married). They do not get along.