CW, G, Ovr, thanks for the responses on Ws parenting. If you all agree then I'm the one over thinking and overreacting.
Originally Posted by ovrrnbw
Well, you turned it on with your internal discourse, so I do believe you can turn it off. I've been reading the Meditations of Marcus Aurelius, but started with The Inner Citadel. Great stuff for situations like this.
Got my interest here. I like YouTube stuff on stoicism so I imagine books can add a whole new level. So far are you liking them? When it comes to books like that im abnormal in a way. I dont want to read them when life is chaos. I want to read them when its a peace. I realize I've got a few peacetime activities lined up but maybe they'll help bring me peace if I follow them now.
Originally Posted by CWarrior
Validating is acknowledging their feelings--e.g., sad, angry, frustrated, etc. A feeling isn't wrong or invalid. Facts may be. Actions may be. Responding defensively won't help your relationship--romantic or coparenting.
True. Responding defensively helps in no way I can think ok.
Originally Posted by CWarrior
She FEELS LIKE you're blaming her. This is a great time for an intervention! You: Oh no! What do you feel like I'm blaming you for? Her: Obviously, for D4 missing out on daddy time during lunch. You: I think D4 will be almost as happy to have daddy time while you get your medicine. Her: But you two will miss Spongebob. The Spongebob finale! You: Your medicine's important. I suspect D4 would be just as happy this one time.. if we recorded Spongebob and then set aside a special time to watch it tonight.. with popcorn!
I wish convos could be like that. Thats how interactions I have with others and past romantic partners have been at times. I just...I can't believe someone would even be offended by me working my normally scheduled shift. This is how convos look with my W:
Her: You're targeting me (or attacking me, hurt me, etc...real life examples, leaving a dish on the counter, not being ok with S1 playing in a moldy basement, threw out expired food) Core: I'm sorry you're feeling attacked. What caused you to feel this way? Her: You Core: What did I say or do that was upsetting? Her: Nothing
2 days later Core: You look upset, is anything wrong? Her: No Core: Ok
3 weeks of stonewalling later, I dont even remember the original convo... Core: Will you just tell me what's wrong, I know you're holding something in Her: Its nothing Core: Just tell me, I dont believe you Her: You did X (something completely normal, or held a boundary, or didnt allow her to control me) and you dont trust me Core: You've been upset about that this whole time? And I didnt believe you because something was wrong and youre admitting to it just now. Her: yes, thats what I said, im mad about X and because you dont trust me Core: I feel like youve blocked me out for weeks because of that, I wish you couldve told me sooner. Her: you didnt ask
Then slowly I would either give in and lose a boundary to prevent stonewalls, lose part of my identity or battle and receive either longer stonewalls or sometimes intimacy for confronting.
Months later Her: why did you stop doing X? Core: Because it really bothered you in the past Her: You misunderstood me and have a bad memory. Youre remembering wrong. Core: You shut me out for weeks...I remember that happening Her: I never did that
I question and doubt my own memory. Maybe I did do such and such wrong. Let me apologize for hurting my W.
Core: I apologize for X Her: thank you Core: how do you feel about my side of the story, I felt shut out for weeks Her: that didnt happen, youre always trying to start a fight.
Ladies and gents, its interactions like the above that caused me to pull out emotionally. Its one of many reasons why I think there is a disorder or at minimum cptsd at play. I'm slowly filling with hate. Not resentment. Its hate and I dont like how it feels. I have to leave the sitch, for me and the kids. Life is about love, support and having fun.
H37, W37 D4, S2 ILYBNILWY 9/19 BD 9/19 EA discovered 10/19 Currently in limbo, no D or S process initiated