HaWho, there is so much here for me to unpack and reflect on that I am not even ready to answer you, but I just wanted to thank you for taking the time and giving me so much insight. I will be reading this many times in the days to come. We have so much in common it's incredible. My brother said something to me very similar to what your sister said but my brother has his own NPD so I didn't take it seriously. I keep asking other people who knew my H and they say there was something there but that he definitely completely changed and was unrecognizable, so the question is more if he was battling it and finally gave up or if he really changed. Anyway, I will read this over and post again. THANK YOU!

Likewise a big thanks to Pax -- and I think you need to read what Job said to me about not beating myself up! It's true, our commitment to our vows and to staying kind and loving could have been met with a transformation and really restored the marriages to what they were supposed to be. We had no way of knowing it wouldn't work or how long it would take, but we can't see it as years wasted. We stayed true to ourselves and finally had to let go.


I believe I will see the bounty of the Lord in the land of the living.
Wait for the Lord with courage.
Be stouthearted, and wait for the Lord.