Originally Posted by Ginger1
You think she needed Valentine’s Day cards and flowers? What she needed was for you to give her space.

I think it was more like YOU needed to give them to her.

Who are you to decide what she needs as a grown adult? That’s a little condescending isn’t it? Sometimes people just need to be heard and have their wishes respected. As much as it isn’t what feels comfortable to us. Now that’s love.


You're very off base here and making assumptions about someone you have never met. Sorry. Actually...two people. You say I have no business saying what she needs, but then go and say, as if it's a fact, what both of us need. You have no idea what she or I need.

And IMO taking a very naive perception that people always make good decisions about what they need. Just because someone is a grown adult, it doesn't mean they won't act in ways that are harmful to themselves.
Sometimes people do just need to be heard and have their wishes respected. Sometimes that is not the case. Sometimes people need others to not run away and give up on someone when they get a little push back.
Sometimes blind support is the worse thing for someone. Enabling is a thing.

And apparently, you missed the whole "I was doing the wrong thing" comment. Though, to be honest, I am doubting that somewhat. Things did seem like they were getting a fraction better, but since I have stopped, things have regressed. And if going by DR, then I should stick with what was working...

Last edited by CaptainN; 03/14/20 07:56 PM.