May, trust me I feel that when I comment on other newbies posts too!!!! It's a lot of me talking myself into DBing through the discomfort. I do know I need to stop trying to figure him out. Not helping with detaching and lord knows he doesn't know his head from a hole in the wall so there really isn't anything to figure out. He's more confused than I am, and I need to remind myself that. I really appreciate the baby 2x4 and the encouragement.