Don't send that present. If you don't understand why then you have a lot of reading and work to do. Go read R2Cs links on attraction and seduction. Read about PUAs and learn from them. Yes you'll have to google that.

The psychological games is that she is feeling hurt by you and all these things from over the years and now that she has decided to leave you you are finally giving her the full court press. It's too late. So it p!sses her the h3ll off. And so does the fact that she told you she doesn't want you and you can't hear her or take her seriously.

As for the positive way to interact with her there is tons of info on this site, you need to do the reading in the welcome post and read it often so that you can absorb it. You detach, act polite but not overly pleasant, stick to business, be brief and succinct, and be the one to end the conversation first.

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It is not things that bother us, but the stories we tell ourselves about things.