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LovingIt #2873331 11/25/19 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by LovingIt
Holy crap... that's a lot of work. I tend to treat males and females similar / neutral... don't know if that's beta or peter pan / bro behavior.
Woman are attracted to men's behavior. Practice might be a lot of work. Practice until you can't do it wrong. Then it is easy.


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ozman #2873341 11/25/19 11:49 PM
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How do you be assertive yet attentive to a woman? I feel stupid for asking. But I’m trying to reinvent myself here. I’ve dug through all the emotional stuff and now there is so much work to be done on myself. I feel like only now I can be AMOAFWL


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ozman #2873347 11/26/19 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by ozman
But I’m trying to reinvent myself here.
Observe other men. Pick out traits that you want. Youtube is a great resource. Go out with the intention on watching the guys and how they interact with woman. Watch the guys that interact with lots of women.


As far as your question, all depends on what is currently happening.

I am typically attentive to my woman, then I break contact. Make and break contact.

As far as assertive, I will say "I want you to Bla bla bla"

or

I will take her hand and lead her to safety. She will be saying "Wait what blabla". I will say "two drunk guys behind us were starting to argue and it was escalating."


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ozman #2873363 11/26/19 06:08 AM
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Google:
"Beating Women at Their Own Game"


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ozman #2873381 11/26/19 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ozman
How do you be assertive yet attentive to a woman? I feel stupid for asking. But I’m trying to reinvent myself here. I’ve dug through all the emotional stuff and now there is so much work to be done on myself. I feel like only now I can be AMOAFWL


Rent "Crazy, Stupid Love". It's a pretty funny movie, but there's actually some good advice in there too. Cal (Steve Carell) has been married for 20+ years and his W has an affair. He moves out and awkwardly tries to start talking to women again. Jacob (Ryan Gosling) takes pity on him and starts coaching him on how to approach and communicate with women. A lot of it is stuff we talk about here- dress better, listen, validate, be the alpha male, etc. I also suggest you read The Married Man Sex Life Primer, lots of good stuff in there on how to be more alpha and less beta.


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ozman #2873382 11/26/19 02:18 PM
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Lol. I was thinking of the same movie when I read his post. Just don’t do the things Steve C does including the big grand jesture in the end. Hollywood can be bad for relationships.

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Originally Posted by LH19
Lol. I was thinking of the same movie when I read his post. Just don’t do the things Steve C does including the big grand jesture in the end. Hollywood can be bad for relationships.


So true, if only those Hollywood endings actually happened! Pursuit works great in movies grin


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ozman #2873439 11/26/19 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve85
My only caution oz is be careful thinking you've arrived. Many a LBS has thought they were 100% detached, and then when their WAS started dating someone, etc.....the detachment came crashing down. Stay diligent on your GAL and 180s. Detachment ebbs and flows. It is okay, just keep working on it.


So true. I thought I was detached about 9 months after BD. Then after a year I thought "wow, I really wasn't detached back then even though I thought I was. But now I really am." Then 3 months later, found myself saying that again. Then 3 months later.... yeah it continued for quite a while. You know how to tell when you're really detached? You don't even talk about it. Your posts are filled with all the GAL stuff you're doing and how much you're enjoying life with no mention of detachment or dropping the rope. You don't say you are, you just are.


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ozman #2873456 11/26/19 09:06 PM
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That’s really good stuff. Thank you. I have some books to read now for sure. All the advice you guys give is great.


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ozman #2873603 11/27/19 06:52 PM
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Well W just found out yesterday that her grandmother (fathers side) has maybe only a few weeks left

Today she found that her grandfather (mother’s side) prolly won’t make it past the weekend

These are her last two grandparents.

How much should I or shouldn’t I be there for her. I want to offer as much as I can because I feel badly for her. But I don’t know how much I should.


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