Thanks CRD, good points.

Originally Posted by crdcheck

Yep, I'm with you on this. You can be feeling great and then hit a slump. I try to remember that when I felt good, I didn't imagine feeling bad, so when I feel bad, even though it's tough to imagine feeling good, it will come.


I agree. I don't end up wallowing for hours and hours; it's more a 15 minute feeling of 'oh yeah this is happening isn't it', and I feel sad about that. I must say that neutral and/or positive emotions are outweighing the negative even now, when D is still in progress.

Originally Posted by crdcheck
Our Ws were checked out before the dropped by bomb. Maybe for other good reasons they didn't share, maybe for "bad" reasons (e.g. OM). Regardless, no one rational throws an M away over a first offense (your case, not mine) and when the other person is willing to work on the issue.


Technically it is not a first offence. She caught me twice before, but nothing this serious (first time spotted a TV channel that I forgot to switch, and second she found a web page open on my phone, nothing saved). The issue with her was the concealment of it all. Yes I am absolutely willing to work on the issue and I have done - I've basically overcome it already, and now just on a path of improving my self-esteem (gym, GAL, etc.).

Originally Posted by crdcheck
You and me both. Maybe NGS? I don't think that it was too much pursuing, we just also need to make sure our needs are voiced early.


Yes, my downside was that I never strove to get my needs met. I would put up with not having them met. Not just in my M but in all previous relationships. I'd always back down or go with the woman's choice for an easy ride even though I was hesitant or not convinced with things sometimes.

I do wish W would reconsider. I wonder if D has to happen and then she gets to hear about my actions and changes and how I've improved myself. Maybe then she'll wonder what would have happened had she stuck it out and not gone crazy and told everyone.


Me - 36, W - 32
No kids
T - 8 yr, M - 3 yr
Discovery - 14 May 2019
S - 25 May 2019 & D bomb - 29 July 2019
D & House sale final - Feb 2020