I am hoping that she will feel the loss when the reality of what a divorced life would like hits her in the face. Also, I think W could be more WE than MLC and I think tough love gets her attention more than standard d- bing. She gets upset when I go dim and keep contact minimal. Sandi has a great thread on WW and I am trying to implement her suggestions. W needs to think I’m gone forever and not a plan b option.