Hello Steve,

I read your update. Sorry to hear about the move out.

It is difficult trying to balance the right approach to winning back your spouse. The conflicting advice is hard. The hard line advice about no contact is, IMO, mostly about respecting her space and showing her that you have heard her and respect her choice.

I downloaded snapchat last year bc one of my friends told me to. Now I hated snapchat but I did it anyways. The best part was that my W got a notification that I downloaded it. That prompted her to be interested in why I did it all of the sudden when she had told me to do it years ago and made her wonder who I was talking to. I deleted it 2 days later bc I didn't care to use it or figure it out. I think that helped my sitch. You want your contact with her to be intriguing, brief, confident. And that moment generated it for me, briefly.

You can also go the other way and be upfront about her saying one thing and doing another WRT the separation's true purpose. It's tough to do without her feeling the heat, but you may want to just get that off your chest too. I've been doing a better job of saying things and letting the chips fall where they and it has worked out fine.

I think your W being super busy is normal, but more importantly it is out of your hands. What does NMMNG say to do about those things?


H 34
W 29
BD 3/12/18
Divorce Busted Spring 19

It is not things that bother us, but the stories we tell ourselves about things.