Originally Posted by DS9
Oh gee I'm so sorry mate.

I'm not minimising your current tribulations, but was her arrogance and don't care attitude a show of defiance and bravado (rather than how she feels really), in which case there may be something to salvage after the dust has settled? I say this because in my M, my XW had quite a few of these WTF bravado moments, which smoothed over subsequently.

If not, you've got the call to make in the next few days as to whether this is it with your W, subject of course to the best interests of your D. As you said, a lot to think about, pending your decision. Maybe during the thinking process, research and book therapy for your W then present her with the date, time and venue of the session. The other veterans will be here soon no doubt to assist with the longer term stuff, as I'm pretty new here sorry mate.

I now really hate smartphones and tablets - they are insidious. It all starts innocently, then snowballs, and becomes a fantasy life. Yes, I too had the positive, loving signals from my XW mere hours before BD.

Mate, what are you doing in the present moment? I still think you need to get out of the house for a while, even if you work from home. It sounds toxic there. Maybe take you out ofr D this time. With all respect to your W, I cant believe she's gone back to her game after all this!



Yeah at this point IDC what she does. For all intents and purposes, unless and until she is willing to admit what she's done is wrong and it's willing to take steps to correct it, there is nothing to save. I'm not leaving my house. I kicked around the idea of kicking her out of the MBR. But I'm letting her stay for now.

Things are definitely stained right now. She's ashamed she says which is funny considering she sees nothing wrong with it. She is making no sense right now. So as you said the f dust needs to settle.


M(53), W(54),D(19)
M-23, T-25 Bomb Drop - Dec.23, 2017
Ring and Piecing since March 2018