LH, I haven't proposed - I thought that the site was here to discuss possible actions like that. As regards people seeing me as pathetic - that's their problem. I am giving her space but there is a chance she may break the silence soon and I want to be prepared. If she contacts me I don't know how she will feel. If I compare myself to OM I reckon i'm a good bet now but we have a chequered history so I need to be able to handle the mixed emotions she may feel. I know what I want and I know she wants the same( we've been together for 16 years so you get a feeling ). But she needs to navigate from where she is to where we both want to be. If a gesture shortcuts that then I'm all for it - but no-one is commenting on that question,
As regards the changes I posted earlier that they have been a doddle. I cut down on the booze and recovered the old me. I was amazed and it feels great. If I'd done it years ago I wouldn't have been here. So I'm not worried about backsliding.
Now divorced, boys grown up. Now in new failed relationship( never again, please )
