Originally Posted by Wolfman
IH that was a little to religious for me. I’m sorry I just don’t follow all of that. I am catholic but didn’t follow what you were putting down. I have prayed for 11 months for this to be fixed and I’m still In The same position.


I am Catholic too. Non practicing at moment but still attending Catholic Church on occaision. Actually Wolf this has little to do with religion, and everything to do with waywardness, spirit of independence, lack of obedience, and sin. What I am trying to say is, here on earth and in DB we focus on the natural. Natural consequences natural choice, natural ways, worldly ways, and focus on it. Yes it is Secular, yes we understand and utilize human wisdom all through out the ages. Yes it serves a purpose for recognition, good and bad. They are actually along the same parallel of natural consequences and spiritual consequences. But then we sit here and wonder? Why do we suffer? Why does our closest
person in the world betray us? Why is our lives not secured and what and whom is it secured in? The world? Nature? Fleeting contentment? Why are our spouses striving torwards Waywardness, Independence and rebellion? . Why won't they see or their pride, their stubbornness, their waywardness, and their rebellion. Or some of our own for that matter. Then we sit here and we wonder "Why everything and everyone is broken." Including ourselves. God is not going to fix this for us, and if he is, its only going to be in his own time, in his own way, that glorifies him and not ourselves, but him through us. We struggle with our nature. With others nature. We want to change but fall short from our own understanding, and our own efforts. I guess ultimately what I am trying to say is. Its going to take a lot of repentance, and a lot of following his ways instead of man's for ourselves or our spouses to ever have enough remorse to change and reconcile, the way he has reconciled us to him through obedience and Jesus Christ, all due to legalism, pride, lust, arrogance, attachment, independence, and rebellion. This has just been recently revealed to me and where my thoughts are. Just sharing them to see if anyone else is open to it, and if it helps?