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Because once you assume the worst then you no longer feel the need to snoop and pry and cross-examine. In a lot of ways it sets you free.

After dealing with the distinct possibility (likelihood?) of D, the EA/PA is the next thing to square up to. I like your approach of just assuming it to be true and carrying on with self DB work. Will stop the endless guessing and as you say, set me free to continue my growth.

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Validation is seeking to understand someone's FEELINGS. Not understand the SUBJECT

Such an odd thing to take onboard when your head wants to fix it for the person you love. In the end, I guess it’s all about listening to the heart instead. Why are us men never taught this [censored]?! I’ll read deeper into the validation threads - thankfully, it is no longer an alien concept to me but I need to own the techniques and make them part of the way I interact with people, not just W.

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I remember feeling a sense of pride over being so freakin' smart in telling her what to do. Oh man I just cringe thinking about it now

I hear you. Funny how it takes this to realise what a clown I was being. Basically behaving like I was at work rather than being there for the person I love. I’m not at the cringe stage yet but I want my head to get there fast.

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Science and the mental health fields have a lot of work to do to figure this out. Currently there is little understanding and no effective treatments.

Agree. I do believe that the max dose of SSRIs she was on after her Grandmothers death were a contributing factor in at least the speed of the demise of MR. After all, the things are meant to hide emotions themselves. I do believe that antidepressants are the equivalent of giving someone a bottle of whisky to deal with their problems.

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There's not a lot of difference, mainly it's the timeline. MLC can take many years to resolve. WAS's can turn around much faster than MLCers

The idea is to be ‘harsher’ with a WW than a MLC/WAS, yes? Still don’t know how I would go about diagnosis without knowing the different symptoms. If you assumed A win your MR, did you treat W as WW rather than MLC/WAS?

I’m just unsure if all these terms and explanations for S’s behaviour are a red herring and complicate matters unneccesarily .


H41 (me), W43
M10, Together 16
S18, D9

BD - Jan 19
‘Temp’ S (I moved out) - Feb 19