Thanks soloflex. Neither of us are particularly religious so I don’t think praying together is an option. I may find religion here though because I could use something! We had a long talk last night. I could really feel all the hurt I have caused her by my actions/inactions and general lack of commitment to our marriage. She is too hurt to give me another chance. She asked a couple of times of how I could expect her to want to stay. I don’t, I can see she is so sad and is just looking for relief. I made it clear I still want our marriage to work but did not pressure her at all or ask for another chance. That was hard to do. She wants me to move out, I don’t think it’s a good idea to fight her on it. I also feel that separation will make it harder to show her changes but maybe some time away will be good for both of us.