Originally Posted by Awakened
Originally Posted by unchien
Awakened - Take this as advice from an internet stranger who hasn’t gone through BD yet, but does worry about this very scenario (served by RO with no good reason). I hesitate to even post this:

Consider contacting a family lawyer. Many offer free 30-minute consults. Be discreet. Find one you are comfortable with, ask about the RO scenario. Then if you are served, you have someone to contact immediately as representation. Only you know if there would be valid reason for a RO or kick-out order.

Also agree with other advice here... do not move out of your house. YOU are not making this ugly for your kids, your W is. You have rights, stand up for yourself, but do so calmly and without anger.


Unchien -

Thank you for your encouragement and humbly submitted advice.

Your advice echos what I've read in other places.

I have already made things ugly for my kids by not handling conflict better (and W has her investment in it as well), but I also will not passively surrender my rights.

W's concern is that i have firearms - which i do. In retrospect, i should have had all of them locked up and put away. Unfortunately, a couple of them were not locked up and had magazines in them.

No bullets able to be fired unless cycled into the chamber (sorry about the "&un speak").

However, W has contended she feels unsafe and that the kids are not safe.

I suspect this changes everything..... but to restate, I have never, ever threatened, insinuated, hinted at, etc violence or harm in any way, shape, or form. Not even once. Ever.

I am living in the cloud of ignorance of these matters.

Unfortunately, given our respective employers ("Christian" institutions) we are not compensated comparatively with secular/non-"Christian" institutions. So we/I do not have large fund reserves to "fight", but I may have to consider financing options.

I never, ever thought i would see days like these...


Having firearms doesnt change anything. You still have rights. You cant get in trouble for a "what if" scenario. Your WAS isnt in the home so dont worry about the guns.

I am a firearm enthusiast. I taught my kids how to handle and respect them. Unless there is a law you are breaking in a non gun friendly state then dont worry about it.

Time to start worrying about you. Stop all pursuit. There is nothing you are going to do or say to make your WW change.

Also, what she did is illegal. If you have no history of abuse with her or the children, she has no right to take the kids to another state. You need to lawyer up immediately.

She can get in serious trouble for taking the kids without a lawful order.

Go talk to a lawyer.

You will get through this.


M:16
T:21
H(me) 38
WW: 38
S11 D16 D19
Red Flags of A: March 2018
ILYBNILWY: August 4, 2018
Moved out of MBR: September 24, 2018
BD/Confirmation of A: October 31, 2018
D Filed: March 27, 2019