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As for a loving conversation, we had this conversation and I told her that I would be out by the end of this year. Yea, I know it wasn't immediate and didn't have the same impact. But W knows that I am the type that keeps his word. I may wait for the right moment and remind her.


Is this a time frame you've given her to either start having sex with you or you'll leave?

IMHO, "reminding her" sounds more like a threat. I can't see how that would cause her to feel desire for you. If you had just gone ahead and left, it might have been more effective than giving her a time frame to come across or else.

Remember me talking to you about the importance of non-sexual touch? You couldn't bring yourself to do it. From a woman's point of view I can tell you that when there are no affectionate touches outside bedroom......she's not going to be hot & ready for intimate touches behind bedroom doors. Someone compared women to slow cooking crock pots, while men were like microwaves. Well, some women don't take that long to start cooking, when they've had fairly consistent affection outside the bedroom doors. The H needs to be consistent in showing his W affectionate touching outside the bedroom, and don't wait until the evening he wants sex to start. I think a lot of men unknowingly make their mistake by waiting till nearly bedtime and then start giving his W signals. From what I have heard other women say, it is a turn-off for them, b/c he hasn't touched his W all week and suddenly wants her to get in the mood b/c he wants sex.

A problem in SSM, is one partner is waiting on the other one. First thing you know, there is no touching of any kind, No non-sexual, no affection, and certainly no intimate touching. When you reach the stage that you feel awkward to touch in a non-sexual way......someone has to break the ice, b/c this is a big problem that won't get better by just expecting your partner to "come across". You can give all the time frames in the world, but it won't be effective in producing desire.


It is not about what you feel should work in your M. It is about doing the work that gets the right results. Do what works!