Originally Posted by Twofeet


I am no L so check with your L, but she may get temporary sole custody of the kids with the whole breastfeeding thing. Once YS is weaned it will probably go to 50/50. Like I said check with L.


From an email from L: “She leaves [YS] to work every day. The Court will not grant her primary custody just because she is breast feeding”

Originally Posted by Twofeet
You are a flight risk? WTF! Were our spouses always this flakey and we were just to love-blind to see it?


WAS / WW gonna WAS / WW. The WAS fog, I believe.

I mentioned this earlier, but W believes that because my teaching agreement is year-to-year I could non-renew myself, and just up and take the kids. That’s not gonna happen, or work. I’m not that desperate, or that stupid. She believes otherwise.

Originally Posted by Twofeet
One thing I think the Catholic church fails on is marriage prep. We had to do the weekend engaged encounter and that is just garbage. I think a longer education process, with stricter requirements is needed. Since the D is so easy getting married should be hard. I talked to my sister who is engaged about consequences of D in the church. She, like I think many of our faith are in the dark.


I really, seriously thought she was (and we were) better than this. When I was dating, I wanted to find someone who is a faithful Catholic and who doesn’t believe in divorce (except for probably a true worst-case scenario like extreme abuse, neglect or infidelity, which I could at least understand). We had a sponsor couple, as we both have degrees in religion (her in religious ed, me an MA in theology).

One thing I’ve given much thought to, and could write a much longer post about, is that if this goes through, what would I want from a dating partner, and potential remarriage. I sometimes wonder if I asked too much of a marriage partner. I also have wondered if I would potentially be happy (or happier) with another woman who is not necessarily Catholic—a Protestant Christian, or someone of another faith tradition, or perhaps even atheist / agnostic; as long as this woman is sympathetic or ‘do no harm’ towards my beliefs or the beliefs I wish to instill in the boys until they are of age to decide for themselves. During undergrad, I know that I drew the attention and affection of young women of non-Catholic traditions—but I wanted to date / marry a Catholic girl. /sigh. This could be a longer post, but this is the Cliffs Notes version of my thoughts on the topic for now.

Originally Posted by Twofeet
I know it hurts, but one foot in front of the other.


Thanks, TF. Right now I just want to crawl into a hole. But then I realize that things will probably get much, much worse before they get better. I also have never felt further away from hope for our MR than right now.

The thought has occurred to me: If, in early January, I accepted her parenting plan / bird-nesting as-is, we would already be doing that. And I wouldn’t have had those extra 2 months or so in our condo, being with the boys 24/7. I’m glad I at least held out for that.


M: 36
W: 30
T: 9
M: 7

S6 (OS)
S7mo (YS)

ILYBINILWY BD: Feb. ‘18

W Wants S / D BD: 1/4/19

H / W still in-house

D papers from W: 3/14/19