Hi Gordie,

I will try not to be blunt but I only have a few minutes. Bare that in mind if it comes across as uncaring. That isn't me.

Anyway that is a tough blow, but there are many different ways to consider this latest conversation:

# It is a reality check on those expectations, which apparently were a bit too high. I don't blame you on that, we are all guilty of it at times. But it does make negative turns harder.
# She looked for comfort and fell asleep in your arms. Actions versus words!!
# She wants more but she shuts the door on you.
# I like what job mentioned about looking at what she said and if you have been lacking, you have an area of focus. If there is no validity, let it slip. I honestly could be accused of not putting W first at the moment. I imagine that it could also be true in your case. Can you look into that. But don't panic and do everything to please her.

Sorry I will try to come back soon to elaborate.


R 25 years
M 14 years
S11 & S13
Working on it alone since Oct 2014
M in trouble a lot earlier (~2 years)
Feb 2016. 1st R chat in a yr.
Next R chat Aug'17
Still together