Originally Posted by Did
Yes I want a signed agreement. I want this done. The financial agreement was done after meeting with a lawyer. A mediation attorney. L said I need to pay support, W needs to work. Support can be a verbal agreement in PA where we live. I want it in writing. When I give her the document Im going to tell her I want to make the divorce happen as easily and inexpensively as possible. Neither of us want to go to court. There are ways to just get the paperwork done for $500. Or the mediation is a couple thousand...


OK sounds like you've done your homework. You've been in your sitch long enough to know if you want to pursue D, so if that's what you want then go for it. Based on what you've described for months I don't see your W changing for a long, long time. She's deep in the fog right now.

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We are on the same page unless she changes her mind...


Be prepared for that. My ex decided to screw me over in the 11th hour after we had already fully agreed to everything. Her L had drawn it up, we reviewed it and redmarked it, her L revised it, I signed it and THEN the ex decided she wanted more money and threatened a drawn-out court battle if I didn't rubber-stamp it. There is no logic or reason when it comes to a WAS so be prepared for anything.

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Just FT with them and shes nice and kind I feel this sense of loss. She has a feminine energy that is attractive to me.


Your W? It always mystifies me when people talk about their WAS calling them terrible things and treating them like dump and then they say she is so attractive. She sounds pretty ugly to me. Beautiful does not equal attractive. There are plenty of beautiful women in the world that I wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole.

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Im done apologizing and making her think shes right (this is something new woman pointed out- apologies make the other person believe you're wrong and they're right- enabling her). I cant wait around anymore.


Yes Sandi has talked about this before. Apologize earnestly and honestly for your mistakes ONE TIME and then let it go. There's no point in continuing to apologize over and over as it just makes you look weak and makes her think you really are the reason for everything wrong in her life.

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Its sad and D4 deserves both parents full time.


She deserves two loving parents which hopefully she will continue to have. Having both of them around 24/7 is an unrealistic expectation even if you stayed married.


Me: 60 w/ S18, D24, D27

M: 21 years; BD: 06-14-12; S: 09-10-12; D final: 03-17-14; XW:57