Steve 85. I totally hear what you are saying about their feelings, and vows, rather than operating on principles, values, and commitments. She did ask me a couple of things last night revolving around putting her son to bed, and who takes turns one after I brought it up. Rather than giving her a direct answer I told her I'd let me think about it and get back to her on. I think where everyone's going with that strategy. It gives you time to think in a rational manner rather than placate on an emotional basis and state. I will definitely read No More Mr. Nice guy this weekend. Every time I hear it mentioned it makes me think of Alice Cooper...lol