Originally Posted by AnotherStander


Huh. I wonder why she's so set on the nesting arrangement if you are just renting the place.


Mostly because of the neighborhood / schools—it’s a very good school district. Also, YS’ sitter is in the neighborhood, but we could always find another sitter if need be.

Originally Posted by AnotherStander

She might believe it or she might know it's BS and is just hoping that you'll believe it so she can have her way.


Wouldn’t rule out either outcome, tbh.

Could believe she is misinformed, but she could also be snowing me.

Originally Posted by AnotherStander
There's a saying that goes "Behind every beautiful woman is a man fed up with her crap". I'm sure the same could be said about men as well, the point isn't that women are at fault but rather that inherently, men and women are vastly different and it is a huge challenge for them to get along in close quarters over a long period of time. Don't fall in love with the idea of wiping the slate clean so you can find the wife that you REALLY wanted, because I guarantee you, there is no easy path to the perfect relationship. No matter who the woman is the path will be filled with landmines hiding just under the surface, you're walking along all happy and content and then -boom- your leg is gone grin So keep up your DB'ing, see where things go with your W. If it doesn't work out then you can cross the "dating" bridge then.


I get what you’re saying. I’ve heard something like the quote “doesn’t matter how hot she is, someone somewhere is sick of her $hit,” or something like that.

And I realize that it can apply to me just as much as it can apply to women, especially W. I’m sure other women got sick of me, and I’ve dropped women in the past like a bad habit.

Thing is, is I thought W was the W I really wanted—everything seemed really good, though there were some flaws and red flags.

I’ll do my best to keep DB’ing, but it is nice to hear the validation and affirmation. I just feel like DB’ing is sometimes pushing her away from me, and making it harder / more difficult for us to reconcile or get back—but it’s early.

I also know that W and I have far to go, whatever path that is—and that things could very well get much worse before they get better.

I do know that whatever happens, with W or someone else, I want to be more guarded, be more discerning, and be more careful. But I can’t say that I haven’t looked or noticed other women, though—I feel terrible that it gives me some sort of ‘hope,’ even though I’m conflicted on the possibility of reconciling with W. I also know that I deserve better than what W has given me, too.

Originally Posted by LH19

Straight out of the WW handbook. Section VI paragraph 2


Originally Posted by AnotherStander
Yup, straight from the "WAS Handbook" Chapter 7 "Things To Say That Will Appease Him Even Though They Are Not True".


This is the 3rd time she’s said something like this—denied OM, doesn’t want to date blah blah blah blah.

I wonder if next time she brings this “oh I don’t know if I want to date / find someone” I should just up and call her on it—say something like “we both know that’s not true.”


M: 36
W: 30
T: 9
M: 7

S6 (OS)
S7mo (YS)

ILYBINILWY BD: Feb. ‘18

W Wants S / D BD: 1/4/19

H / W still in-house

D papers from W: 3/14/19