I'm doing alright on the manly stuff front, could probably do with making more friends that are men though. I will keep the ring on. If I cannot live up to my own morals, values, and convictions - why even have them? That's not living in integrity to myself.
A lot of people here say things like you can't do things to make her come back and what not. But we also say that she needs to think you are dumping her. I think you leaving the ring on makes you look like plan B. I want you to save your marriage. I think you have cemented yourself in the friendzone. You know what it takes to break up cement? A jackhammer, not a feather.
I love that you have these morals and convictions, it makes you a good person. It's a tough decision to make. I'm here for advice and I want to support you. I've been where you are, except kinda not - I don't have kids with my spouse.
Originally Posted by JB42
I'm actually in the military and I know quite a few strong men and women that use words and phrases like this. I don't use them in casual conversation, but they are useful in assessing and addressing weak points (and strong points). Having a concrete definition allows concrete action.
It just sounds a bit contrived, too fancy for me. In the Marines, you didn't hear too much stuff like this. Not sure what branch you're in.
Originally Posted by JB42
I disagree - my mind isn't made up on the decision, but I maintained that it is my decision to make. A pretty strong position if you ask me. A friendship, at least a surface level one, would benefit the kids.
If you're OK being friendzoned by your W who is cheating on you, that's your call. You want to say it's "for the kids", OK. You have to live with the agony. Like I said, you need to read NMMNG about 100 times. This woman has no respect for you.
H 34 W 29 BD 3/12/18 Divorce Busted Spring 19
It is not things that bother us, but the stories we tell ourselves about things.