Hi all. Yes, coming from the other side i will try to get to all of your questions. it is truly bizarre and pretty upsetting actually. Devvo to answer your question The OW was a giant mess herself. It's all an escape, running away from life. She knew he was married and chased after him. The kind of person that does this...is not a prize. Right now i dont want to give a specific timeline because she did come on here and caused me quite a racket. BD was years ago. And, yes, he is being totally honest and wanting to come clean and apologize, etc. Very remorseful. But he is not well. He is not out of his depression and is totally unhappy with his life. the AP is just an escape.Things they dont want to face. It's exactly why the vets say don't focus on AP, and mind read. Also XH was so angry and resentful at BD that anyone without any of that is easier to talk to. And hi DNJ. I have caught up on your sitch. You are very strong and wise. I can't say I was.