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#283382 05/12/04 11:44 PM
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Wow! He gave you the OW token...that is phenomenal. What a gift of letting go

I look forward to reading your journalling.

Vanessa


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#283383 05/13/04 12:04 AM
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i know your in the process of leaving town, but i wanted to stop by none the less to thank you for peeking in my sitch and for the kind words

slowly - you had a mirable happen tonight, no matter how small, tiz still a miracle

treasure it and nurture it, it will become more

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slowly,

It looks like things are going really good for you . Just remember to keep up the PMA that is the advice that you first gave me and is probably what has kept me going.

I would not have made it this far without all your wonderful advice. You are a wonderful person and I agree with others on here that you have been a true godsend and have helped many people. I honesty think you have been one of my guardian angels here on earth and don't know what I would have done if you had not found me when I was ready to throw everything away.

You have been a wonderful friend and I can tell you are very close to getting everything you deserve for all your hard work and faith in what you believe in. You will shortly be able to post your own sucess story. But always remember you have played a very important role in a lot of other sucess stories on this board.

Take care
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#283385 05/13/04 02:01 AM
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Holy moly, Slowly!

This is BIG! You better go off on your biz trip and smile, because you just got a big answer and a huge gift.

We expect a full report when you get home!

Now, off to watch Wallace and Gromit for the zillionth time...

Betsey


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Oh the tears! The tears! Slowly, this is great news. I am SO VERY HAPPY FOR YOU! (And actually your "Slowly" seems to be unfolding rather rapidly in DB time.)

Here's one other observation. In all your posts as you spoke of this "trinket" you made it clear that you would say nothing, etc. Teehee...even when we THINK we are saying nothing...we seem to be saying QUITE A LOT. And they hear our silences LOUD and CLEAR!

In my own situation, I know that I must broadcast some negative emotions even when I do not imagine that I am. It really is something I need to consider.

And what will you DO with that "trinket". DO tell!

Have a great, GREAT trip. And return safely.

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Now and then it's good to pause in our pursuit of happiness and just be happy. ~ Guillaume Apollinaire

Journaling Wednesday. I have decided to refer to H as NiceGuy (NG)– this is an image of himself that he seems most concerned to hang on to

Positives
+ Got a difficult meeting out of the way, at work. Emotionally draining stuff.
+ NG came home early afternoon. I will always count this as a positive, and will always remember to appreciate it
+ We managed to get some long overdue maintenance chores done – handyman was fixing bathrooms all afternoon. Feels good to have it out of the way
+ Had a nice dinner, with a very interesting conversation – which I will journal separately

Negatives
- not sure I topped up NG's emotional tank, may have made several withdrawals - see same conversation



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After much deliberation, it occurred to me that the conversation needed to be journaled for my own thread. Wrote it up on the flight home, not quite word perfect, but here is the gist of it. Over dinner, NG and I drifted into some A talk

Me I think I can understand why you tried to maintain some sort of contact with OW
NG Why do you think?
Me To keep tabs on what is going on with OW and her H; this latest revelation about his bankruptcy must no doubt have repercussions on their family
NG Right. I just don't want to be blindsided. As it is, every time they have a crisis, I get calls from both of them, within minutes of each other
Me Surely OW must interpret the fact that you are there as the A continuing?
NG How can she, when the discussions are platonic? That I'm just there to help them sort themselves out. This is why I wanted OW's sister to be in the loop, so that there is someone sensible to help these people figure out what they are doing to their kids
Me Surely parents will know best?


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NG Apparently everyone else is more concerned than they are. But OWs sister has told me that I'm not worth knowing so I cannot really appraise her of the situation, get her to step in so I can get these folks off my back
Me You want me to try?
NG It’s a thought. You know she thinks the world of you and is more likely to act on your encouragement
Me She may not be the only one who thinks you are not worth knowing, you know
NG Is that a threat? Because if you are thinking of leaving, then do so now
Me Whoa. I have not decided what to do, for now I'm doing nothing but carrying on as normal. But we must be prepared for the fact that our recovery may not go as we plan, right?
NG Well, I want you to decide now
Me I'm not ready. Just as I did not force you into decisions, I'd like you to allow me the space and time. Please do'n't tell me what to do
NG I don't like having a sword over my head
Me Well, that is not my intention. But I do need to drive my life, and that includes deciding for myself, when I am ready, what I really want to do


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Things were a bit calmer over the apple pie desert, and we drove home the long way, which I do to avoid going past OW's place of work.


NG This is a ridiculous route
Me Well, we all cope in different ways. I find it difficult to have a good day with reminders of OW shoved down my throat
NG I do not do such things
Me No, I mean, when I drive past xx, it just reminds me of her, and sours my day, so I prefer to go the long way

So my friends, what do you think went on here? I'm afraid of reading too much, too little, the wrong thing


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folks - sorry about the multiple posts, I had written up the notes on a word doc, and for some reason, could not paste into one post, the thread kept hanging hopefully it is not too difficult to follow

I'm beat thinking about this on top of the travel. Hopefully some of you are feeling inspired Thanks.


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